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Post by clumsythumbs on Aug 17, 2019 10:35:40 GMT -5
For my next Ultra project, doing another round of peppers. Since the Sweet Heats (Park) were pretty successful, and I missed the 'late' stage production (See my previous thread), and I had the seeds, figured I would try these again. I found these to be really nice on salads. A nice fresh 'bite'... not spicy, but a little peppery. I am also trying out these Sureno Hybrid pepper seeds I got from Park as well. According to their description: "Sureño is a serrano pepper with larger yields and a more compact habit than others. Easily grown in a container on the deck or balcony as well as in the garden, it offers masses of very firm, flavorful fruit that holds well if the harvest is delayed. These straight, blunt-ended peppers are 4 inches long and about a half inch in diameter, spicy and hot through and through! Pick them green or let them mature to red for full nutritional impact. The plant is resistant to potato Y virus, races 0-2. You'll have armloads to choose from, all summer long!" They get about 12" high, but are relatively wide (12"-16"). Seemed like a good fit for an AG! Machine: Ultra
Seeds: Sureno Hybrid (Park); Sweet Heat Hybrid (Park)
Pods: Park
 Ultra Sweet n Heat Pepper Garden 8:15:19 by Aaron Blasyak, on Flickr
Last time I did the Sweet Heats, the first round did not germinate, so I planted 2 for insurance. If all germinate, I will either choose the best one, or transplant one to a pot once they start getting bigger. When I transplanted the the last one for my friend, it fit in a cute little pot and was nice and compact. I may have to transplant the Sureno instead if it gets as bushy as it claims. The fun is in the trying!
Will post progress pics once I see something. I have one last machine (Ultra) that is going to be used for the Labor Day GAL. I planned on exactly 2 weeks, so all 3 machines were on the same feeding schedule, but not all on the same R&R schedule.
FYI, if anyone wants to seeds for the Sureno, happy to share (PM me). It came with 20 I believe, so I have plenty to spare. |
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Post by clumsythumbs on Sept 2, 2019 10:42:25 GMT -5
Blarg! Haven't had the chance to update this! So, I think we are on Day 18 (give or take). Both the Sweet Heat and Sureno sprouted after about a week to 9/10 days. Took off the grow domes at about 12 days. The second (back up) sweet heat pod did not/has not sprouted yet. So, I am glad I planted two as an insurance policy. [As an aside: my Park's unsprouted pods often get slimy green top...algae? Is this bad to leave? Should I wipe off?] AG 'nutes were added Friday (2 week mark). As you can see the Sureno (back left) has THREE that sprouted. Will likely thin down to one in the day or two. The Sweet Heat (Back left) eventually sprouted a few. Will also thin down. Here are the little darlings:  20190902_112141 by Aaron Blasyak, on Flickr There is an errant Chard pod also hanging out. My 2nd chard was not sprouting in my Bounty Greens Garden, so planted a new one and moved this one over to see if the brighter lights will do anything. As an added bonus, here is a progress pic from their early days:  20190826_101557 by Aaron Blasyak, on Flickr They grow up so fast! |
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Post by clumsythumbs on Sept 5, 2019 18:33:49 GMT -5
Day ~21: Thinned both pepper seedlings: Sweet Heat (L) and Sureno (R) The front pods are one of the chards that did not germinate and the other is the 2nd sweet heat that also has not germinated.  20190905_192119 by Aaron Blasyak, on Flickr Hope the Sureno does not get too leggy; it is getting taller by the day. Happy with this growth for only a few weeks. |
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Post by Shawn on Sept 6, 2019 9:51:18 GMT -5
The stem looks like a light seeker. Here is what Mike had said about them:
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Post by clumsythumbs on Sept 6, 2019 12:55:36 GMT -5
Thanks for that info Shawn! I recalled reading something on this, and figured at some point I might be asking... so good to know I have a month or so before having to take any action. Based on the description of the seeds, it said it gets quite bushy. Hopefully this happens, but I agree that based on how it is looking and acting it is gonna be that way. |
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Post by clumsythumbs on Sept 6, 2019 15:25:56 GMT -5
Look who decided to join the party... 21 days in!  20190906_153817 by Aaron Blasyak, on Flickr This is the 2nd Sweet Heat pod that I planted. The first (and only) time I grew Sweet Heat, it did not germinate so this time around I decided to plant two as an insurance policy. If they both grow to maturity, I will have to move of them to a pot and keep between the two machines. For the next 2-3 weeks, day time temps should be warm enough to keep outsie, but overnight temps drop into the 40s and 50s now here. There is a small space between my two ultras that I kept my herbs during the winter. I am suspicious of this late germinator though. The pod has tons of algae on the top. I dabbed some H2O2, but still wonder if it will interfere with its growth. Anyhow a nice surprise!  |
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Post by clumsythumbs on Sept 10, 2019 18:25:38 GMT -5
Day 26: Not much change. Both peppers are growing nice and steady. The 2nd Sweet Heat really has not grown much, so not sure it will survive.  2019-09-10_07-07-02 by Aaron Blasyak, on Flickr The Sureno (right) is still looking kind of leggy, but it has slowed down some. |
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Post by clumsythumbs on Sept 17, 2019 16:20:22 GMT -5
Day 30 something: So, this is coming along well. The Sweet Heat is getting bushy and the leaves look gorgeous. Hard to really see, but there are some tiny buds that will be flowers sometime soon:  2019-09-17_04-57-17 by Aaron Blasyak, on Flickr  2019-09-17_04-58-24 by Aaron Blasyak, on Flickr The Sureno's stem has bulked up some, so less spindly, but still kind of leggy. The leaves are looking curled and kind of saggy/less firm.  2019-09-17_04-57-57 by Aaron Blasyak, on Flickr Not sure if this is something to be concerned about, but I won't worry. The plant is growing well. I am not able to really find many photos of the plant online, so not sure what the leaves are "supposed" to look like. I know sometimes pepper leaves curling under can mean something, but I am not really gonna read into it (unless someone tells me this is something to be concerned about  ) |
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Post by Shawn on Sept 18, 2019 4:16:57 GMT -5
May I ask a few questions...
When was the picture taken? If at night then I know sometime leaves will lower. How much nutes are you giving them? Maybe that plant needs less then the Sweet.
When are you due to do the next R&R?
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Post by clumsythumbs on Sept 18, 2019 10:14:26 GMT -5
May I ask a few questions...
When was the picture taken? If at night then I know sometime leaves will lower. How much nutes are you giving them? Maybe that plant needs less then the Sweet.
When are you due to do the next R&R?
The photo was taken mid-day. The 4 week mark was last week, but did not do an R&R. I may do one at 6 weeks if things are still looking droopy. I noticed today it is looking perkier-- it is mostly the older leaves, so can always trim. I am not TOO concerned, but thought I would throw it out there.   I am doing the 8 ml of nutes as per the AG guidelines. |
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Post by Shawn on Sept 18, 2019 13:36:54 GMT -5
I am glad it is looking perkier.
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Post by clumsythumbs on Oct 4, 2019 15:04:36 GMT -5
Day 50: These are REALLY growing nicely!  2019-10-04_03-52-04 by Aaron Blasyak, on Flickr Since the 2nd Sweet Heat actually grew and is looking good (despite very far behind in growth), I move the Sureno to its own pot a few days ago:  2019-10-04_03-53-06 by Aaron Blasyak, on Flickr It seems to have survived. Although...am sort of wondering if I should have done this. Up until this past weekend, we were still getting some sun and mild temps. Now suddenly this week, the sun has not come out since last Saturday and its been cold, rainy, and cloudy. Anyhow, I have it behind the Bounty Salad Garden in the kitchen now to get its light. If/when the sun comes out will put it outside during the days, etc. It has some flowers going on it. The leaves still look 'weepy', but I think that is just how the plant is. I had to remove it as it is 17" tall and the Sweet Heat is only at 9" or 10". So I felt the hood height difference might impact. Hopefully I did not make the wrong choice. The larger Sweet Heat is starting to flower...with a bunch of buds forming, so should be seeing a ton of flowers soon:  2019-10-04_03-52-42 by Aaron Blasyak, on Flickr Here are some progress pics: 9/23 [Day 38 or so]:  2019-09-23_11-21-48 by Aaron Blasyak, on Flickr and a week later on 9/30:  2019-09-30_09-09-14 by Aaron Blasyak, on Flickr  2019-09-30_09-09-44 by Aaron Blasyak, on Flickr Once some peppers start to grow, I will update. I think I need to clean up the Sweat Heat's huge amount of leaves and undergrowth to make room for the peppers and flowers. This one is definitely healthier looking this my first go-around of Sweet Heats back in the spring. |
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Post by clumsythumbs on Oct 21, 2019 21:51:45 GMT -5
The Sweet Heat is doing really well! TONS and TONS of flowers and several tiny peppers growing. Will post photos later this week. The Sureno has a lot of flowers, and a few peppers. They seem to take longer to former. It survived being transplanted. The 2nd Sweet Heat has flowers, but is really small. I don't mind, but also don't expect to get much from it.
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Post by Shawn on Oct 22, 2019 5:58:10 GMT -5
My smaller Sweet Heats produced a lot of peppers. For a small plant it does its job are giving you them.
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Post by clumsythumbs on Oct 22, 2019 9:31:35 GMT -5
Shawn by small I mean like only 2 or 3" tall. The fully grown one, by comparison about 8".
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Post by Shawn on Oct 22, 2019 10:23:06 GMT -5
Shawn by small I mean like only 2 or 3" tall. The fully grown one, by comparison about 8".
Wow that is tiny. Did you top it?
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Post by clumsythumbs on Oct 24, 2019 14:16:45 GMT -5
No. I planted sweet heat pods since my first attempt in the Spring took a few attempts to germinate. One never did, one did (the larger one), and one took like 6 weeks. That 3rd one seems to be growing slowly. I figured no harm not foul. Basically, it started to flower before it grew, I have been pinching off the flowers to see if it will grow more. But seems to be staying put.
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Post by clumsythumbs on Oct 28, 2019 9:50:16 GMT -5
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Post by Shawn on Oct 28, 2019 12:02:22 GMT -5
All are doing well. On the small one, I would cut those two leaves that are yellowing and have spots on them. JMO
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Post by clumsythumbs on Oct 31, 2019 8:21:10 GMT -5
All are doing well. On the small one, I would cut those two leaves that are yellowing and have spots on them. JMO That's a good idea Shawn! I haven't been paying much attention to that one. |
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